Problem with graphics board
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Problem with graphics board
Hello!
I have one unit of Travelpilot MCA, the history of this unit is the next:
One friend boy this unit in ebay around 6 years ago, with a low price but with a fault. this unit dont turn on. My friend serach a tecnical service to repair, but all have the same solution, send to blaupunkt and pay 600€, the price is so higer and my friend try to repair with any conocements and damage more the parts, after try to repair with bad results my friend buy another unit and give me a damaged unit.
i have another unit (MCA) installed in my kuga, and i try to replace this pcb, and the unit turn on, now the problem is the pin code, y try to generate with the unit number, but for my surprise, this unit have a lot of diferent parts of other units, y solved reading part number with elmconfig. after turn on, the unit work, only need connect GPS antenna to try correct location, the last location are in Italy.
My conclusion is, the grapic card have a problem, y try to buy another but dont find any. i dont have information to repair, test points, value of components etc etc, and now my question, is possible repair or find instructios to repair? buy another PCB? send to repair witnormal price and not pay 600€?
this is the pics of PCB:
Regards!!!
I have one unit of Travelpilot MCA, the history of this unit is the next:
One friend boy this unit in ebay around 6 years ago, with a low price but with a fault. this unit dont turn on. My friend serach a tecnical service to repair, but all have the same solution, send to blaupunkt and pay 600€, the price is so higer and my friend try to repair with any conocements and damage more the parts, after try to repair with bad results my friend buy another unit and give me a damaged unit.
i have another unit (MCA) installed in my kuga, and i try to replace this pcb, and the unit turn on, now the problem is the pin code, y try to generate with the unit number, but for my surprise, this unit have a lot of diferent parts of other units, y solved reading part number with elmconfig. after turn on, the unit work, only need connect GPS antenna to try correct location, the last location are in Italy.
My conclusion is, the grapic card have a problem, y try to buy another but dont find any. i dont have information to repair, test points, value of components etc etc, and now my question, is possible repair or find instructios to repair? buy another PCB? send to repair witnormal price and not pay 600€?
this is the pics of PCB:
Regards!!!
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Re: Problem with graphics board
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Re: Problem with graphics board
Oscar, let me recall your writing, if i understand everything right.
You have a faulty MCA and a working one in your car. To narrow down the error source, you swapped components, first the mainboard and find that the unit starts, so mainboard seems to be okay. But you didn't know the pincode for it abd therefore tried to get one calculated by someone who needs the serialnumber of the device. But the code he gave you was wrong? Or you are unable to finde the serial? It is written on a label on top and side of the radio, and also graved into the side cover where the label sits. And how did you read it using ELMconfig?? With it you can only read out the Ford partnumber, but this is not the serial number. Please explain...
Next you found out the grahpics board is faulty. Well, as i took a look at those "repairs" it is no wonder it doesn't work anymore. Why he made such damages? It makes no sense to me. I've seen this before, from an guy on Talkford.com whose asked me a similar question. I have no idea how one could cause damage at this location. The only reason could be, he was a honk and ripped the device out using a screwdriver or a crowbar...
I think it might get rescued, but are you are to solder SMD like it should? Other option would be to send me the board and i look if i can repair it. Currently i have no idea what could be wrong with it.
You have a faulty MCA and a working one in your car. To narrow down the error source, you swapped components, first the mainboard and find that the unit starts, so mainboard seems to be okay. But you didn't know the pincode for it abd therefore tried to get one calculated by someone who needs the serialnumber of the device. But the code he gave you was wrong? Or you are unable to finde the serial? It is written on a label on top and side of the radio, and also graved into the side cover where the label sits. And how did you read it using ELMconfig?? With it you can only read out the Ford partnumber, but this is not the serial number. Please explain...
Next you found out the grahpics board is faulty. Well, as i took a look at those "repairs" it is no wonder it doesn't work anymore. Why he made such damages? It makes no sense to me. I've seen this before, from an guy on Talkford.com whose asked me a similar question. I have no idea how one could cause damage at this location. The only reason could be, he was a honk and ripped the device out using a screwdriver or a crowbar...
I think it might get rescued, but are you are to solder SMD like it should? Other option would be to send me the board and i look if i can repair it. Currently i have no idea what could be wrong with it.
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YesGo4IT wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 18:05 Oscar, let me recall your writing, if i understand everything right.
You have a faulty MCA and a working one in your car. To narrow down the error source, you swapped components, first the mainboard and find that the unit starts, so mainboard seems to be okay. But you didn't know the pincode for it abd therefore tried to get one calculated by someone who needs the serialnumber of the device.
The main board of the Sat Nav have diferent number of the all labels. with ElmConfig i possible read the serial number:Go4IT wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 18:05 But the code he gave you was wrong? Or you are unable to finde the serial? It is written on a label on top and side of the radio, and also graved into the side cover where the label sits. And how did you read it using ELMconfig?? With it you can only read out the Ford partnumber, but this is not the serial number. Please explain...
Later, with this serial, is possible generate the pin code.
I don,t know, this unit arrive to me with this faults, and my friend, when buy this unit don´t work, this problem comes from italy owner.Go4IT wrote: ↑21 Feb 2019, 18:05 Next you found out the grahpics board is faulty. Well, as i took a look at those "repairs" it is no wonder it doesn't work anymore. Why he made such damages? It makes no sense to me. I've seen this before, from an guy on Talkford.com whose asked me a similar question. I have no idea how one could cause damage at this location. The only reason could be, he was a honk and ripped the device out using a screwdriver or a crowbar...
if you know possible solution, i preffer send to you and pay your job to repair, i dont have components, and tools to repair. or if you know wants tolls i need, i possible buy it and try.
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Re: Problem with graphics board
Oscar, according to the partnumber shown in the first screenshot, the board is and NX from an Focus. https://mk4-wiki.denkdose.de/artikel/na ... ilenummern
It is not a MCA. Beware that there where NX which looks like MCAs, black cover and such, but they aren't. A good way to check is to look at the rear connectors. If there is only one blue Fakra and the antenna plug is ISO, it is an NX. If there are blue, black and white Fakras, it is an MCA.
What is shown as serial number seems something different. It is in fact nothing to gether a pincode from. The serialnumber from the case label look like this "881 C7E3A0544 8 8350797". Maybe (!) the numberr shown is the last part, but you also need all parts, even if they could be derived from the model. Do me a favor and read sector 507 of the flash an post it here. It should contain more information about the type.
After all it could be an interesting feature if it is really the serial, because people who forgott their pin need to remove the radio to read the model and serial from the label. Not really fun in an Mondeo...
The numbers printed on the board denote their version. Please make a picture of the bottom right side numbers, near the serviceport.
For the graphic board it should not be too expensive to send by mail, because it is very tiny. I'll send you and Email with my address, maybe i am able to fix it. Don't worry about costs, i'll have an eye on it!
It is not a MCA. Beware that there where NX which looks like MCAs, black cover and such, but they aren't. A good way to check is to look at the rear connectors. If there is only one blue Fakra and the antenna plug is ISO, it is an NX. If there are blue, black and white Fakras, it is an MCA.
What is shown as serial number seems something different. It is in fact nothing to gether a pincode from. The serialnumber from the case label look like this "881 C7E3A0544 8 8350797". Maybe (!) the numberr shown is the last part, but you also need all parts, even if they could be derived from the model. Do me a favor and read sector 507 of the flash an post it here. It should contain more information about the type.
After all it could be an interesting feature if it is really the serial, because people who forgott their pin need to remove the radio to read the model and serial from the label. Not really fun in an Mondeo...
The numbers printed on the board denote their version. Please make a picture of the bottom right side numbers, near the serviceport.
For the graphic board it should not be too expensive to send by mail, because it is very tiny. I'll send you and Email with my address, maybe i am able to fix it. Don't worry about costs, i'll have an eye on it!
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Yes, i read the serial from my NX wothouth rear camera, this unit works fine, and i use to connect in my wiring.Go4IT wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 16:23 Oscar, according to the partnumber shown in the first screenshot, the board is and NX from an Focus. https://mk4-wiki.denkdose.de/artikel/na ... ilenummern
It is not a MCA. Beware that there where NX which looks like MCAs, black cover and such, but they aren't. A good way to check is to look at the rear connectors. If there is only one blue Fakra and the antenna plug is ISO, it is an NX. If there are blue, black and white Fakras, it is an MCA.
Serial readed from my NX withouth camera: Serial from sticker of my NX withouth camera: Serial of my MCA readed with Elmconfig:Go4IT wrote: ↑22 Feb 2019, 16:23 What is shown as serial number seems something different. It is in fact nothing to gether a pincode from. The serialnumber from the case label look like this "881 C7E3A0544 8 8350797". Maybe (!) the numberr shown is the last part, but you also need all parts, even if they could be derived from the model. Do me a favor and read sector 507 of the flash an post it here. It should contain more information about the type.
I dont know the process to complete the serial, i send to one friend the same picture of this post, and later give me a complete serial to try.
the pin code is generated in digitalKaos forum after i send serial number.
i think, the first part of serial is the same to all units with same specification or part number?
Ok perfect! thanks!!!!!
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Re: Problem with graphics board
I'm sorry but by the Ford partnumber, the Bosch number and the serial the BV4T-...-AB is a Kuga NX, not an MCA.
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Re: Problem with graphics board
I don’t understand.
in next post:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2
I mentioned my 3 unit of travel pilot. The BV4T-...-AB is a SD versión and have 1 fakra to rear camera, 1 fakra to GPS antenna and 2 fakra to radio antenna
What unit is this? MCA or NX?
Sorry of my bad English
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Re: Problem with graphics board
I believe you, what is strange is that all references i can find points out that BV4T-18K931-AB should be a Kuga NX... seems the refs are wrong. But let us discuss the numbers in a seperate thread, because this would also be interesting for others!
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Ok, you have a good idea to open another thread.
When I have time, I unmount the travelpilot of my kuga and take a picture of all stickers and references.
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When I have time, I unmount the travelpilot of my kuga and take a picture of all stickers and references.
Best regards
Kuga MK1 owner