How to use VCM-II clone

[Go4IT]

Anybody here ever used such a cloned VCM-II ?
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09QCX ... UTF8&psc=1
I've bought such an now try to bring it to live... but the infos on the DVD are very less.

[Artist]

Hello, it is a shame that you used this name when purchasing the product. You got carried away with the name after having the VCM in your hands for repair... You could have used another tool which I think works perfectly with the latest version of the original IDS. The loader is automatic and easy to operate. It has a switch and works like a j2534 or Elm…

The product is called SVCI and this year its renamed version VNCI is already being sold.

Site link:
• flyobd.com •

However, the website is not working today...

[Go4IT]

I've returned the device today as it turns out that this VCM clone is just a diagnose device (VXD)

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The one needed has two PCBs and much more parts:

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It's really hard to figure out which one of the offers may be build like the last shown. Most picts only shows the case, no chance to figure out. Some write that they sell a "two pcb version", but who to trust? Chinese market ist not that trustworthy at all...

[Go4IT]

You could have used another tool which I think works perfectly with the latest version of the original IDS. The loader is automatic and easy to operate. It has a switch and works like a j2534 or Elm…
The product is called SVCI and this year its renamed version VNCI is already being sold.

So it only operates as a J2534 bridge right? I thought those devices are not useable for part programming/swap or key programming, because official docu tells so?

[Artist]

Product Description
Compatible with Ford IDS v128 and Mazda IDS v128 newest version.
Support many J2534 compatible software (HDS, TIS, SDD2, VIDA, PCMFLash)
Support most all of ELM327 software (ELMConfig, Forscan, ScanMaster)
VNCI MF J2534 Adapter with Software Version Ford 128+Mazda 128

Introduction:

VNCI (Vehicle Network Communication Interface) MF is a device that works between diagnostic software and vehicle. It is compatible with J2534 PassThru and ELM327 protocol.

VNCI MF Advantages:
1. High-speed communication. Program most of the modules in 5 minutes.
2. More stability. Never let you down while reprogramming.
3. More coverage. Support J1850 PWM programming for Ford before MY2006.

VNCI MF Main Functions:

1. Compatible with Ford IDS v128 and Mazda IDS v128 newest version.
2. Support many J2534 compatible software (HDS, TIS, SDD2, VIDA, PCMFLash ...).
3. Support most all of ELM327 software (ELMConfig, Forscan, ScanMaster ...).

VNCI MF Hardware Configuration:
1. High speed CAN.(OBDII PIN 6 and PIN 14. Speed 500Kbps)
2. Middle speed CAN.(OBDII PIN 3 and PIN 11. Speed 125Kbps)
3. ISO9141 and ISO14230 K line.(OBDII PIN 7 and PIN 15)
4. J1850 PWM.(AKA Ford SCP. OBDII PIN 2 and PIN 10.)
5. Ford FEPS.(OBDII PIN 13. programming voltage up to 20V)

Free Download VNCI Ford and Mazda IDS V128

Package Includes:
1pc x VNCI MF J2534 interface

[Go4IT]

So much for propaganda but can you confirm that genuine IDS (not patched) works with online access to Ford and it can program PATS von FL vehicle (>2011) ?

[Artist]

No, I definitely wouldn't believe it 100%... I haven't tried programming the keys on newer models.
However, I tested models up to 2010 and everything worked correctly in IDS. After replacing some modules I followed the help in IDS and fitting and initializing the modules was quick and easy...
For newer models, I've only tried diagnostics with suggested repair...

However, my response to your post was different.
This tool works the same as vcm, except that it does not require a complex procedure and a virtual to run.
Just install Loader, which is automatically updatable and also offers IDS updates almost every few days.
It is loaded when the PC starts and checks for module updates.
I will not mention the IDS service, it is not important. Anyone can get this tool up and running. Starting VCM is a bit worse, especially when one turns it on after a long period of inactivity...

[DGAlexandru]

So much for propaganda but can you confirm that genuine IDS (not patched) works with online access to Ford and it can program PATS von FL vehicle (>2011) ?

For this you still need a working Ford dealer account or even harder to find - an authorised AfterMarket Service account that was able to pass all the needed checks in order to be trusted so it can have access to PATS online module.

[Go4IT]

For this you still need a working Ford dealer account or even harder to find - an authorised AfterMarket Service account that was able to pass all the needed checks in order to be trusted so it can have access to PATS online module.

Yes, i know, but this is not my problem
I now ordered a VCM-II clone which was described with having "two pcb". Let's see...
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0B451 ... UTF8&psc=1

[amplified]

pats used to be done in etis dealerconnections website, but is not possible now for mk4.5 model. only with fjds and fdrs with account.

i am trying to use ucds with ids but i cant seem a way to do it. Some people got success with scanmatik 2 pro with renaming dlls, i tried same with ucds but ids don't work with it. I want to use ids as well, because fdrs and fjds not quite as good on older cars before 2013 year.